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@  Spike : (20 Jul - 18:21) I'm thinking that the scheme to raise £2 million was to suppliment JRs shortfall, when that failed he knew he couldn't carry on with the takeover
@  Dave Sargeant : (20 Jul - 18:21) All sounds a bit murky to me.  Hope I am wrong but it does not bode well for next season.
@  Spike : (20 Jul - 18:26) Terry Bramall funded us last season with players and the season before when we got promoted. Have you read his statement saying he is hoping to get us promoted this coming season and he will be giving Dickov his backing?
@  Spike : (20 Jul - 18:30) The statement is on this link. http://www.doncaster...nt-1768825.aspx
@  Dave Sargeant : (20 Jul - 18:30) I heard that probably from you and believe it but did he not say sometime last season that we are a div one club?  If he wants to get us promoted we need to be signing players now.
@  Spike : (20 Jul - 18:34) We should see something happening this week, some of the players have been training with us for a while now, just waiting for paper work to be completed which couldn't be done with the takeover happening
@  Dave Sargeant : (20 Jul - 18:36) Just read the statement seems positive.  going off site for a couple of hours, Aught to check something.
@  Spike : (20 Jul - 18:37) Ok Dave
@  Spike : (20 Jul - 20:15) What a tackle this is. https://www.youtube....h?v=hcDDmJkSN5U
@  Anonymous Ha... : (20 Jul - 20:51) so we won today then just got back now, another awful muggy day
@  Spike : (20 Jul - 21:14) A way for you to keep cool in the warm weather Crazy. http://cdn4.nwgimg.c...4_7-550x550.jpg
@  Anonymous Ha... : (20 Jul - 21:23) link is faulty
@  Spike : (20 Jul - 21:26) It must have been taken down
@  Spike : (21 Jul - 06:11) Dave, think about the players Bramall gave the go-ahead for last season, it may put your mind at rest. Forrester, Duffy, Khumalo, Wabara, Robinson, Macheda, Turnbull, Wellens, Sharp, Johnstone, Meite, Tamas, Neill. That is on top of the players already there that were given new contracts.
@  Anonymous Ha... : (21 Jul - 17:26) those players didn't keep you in the championship though
@  Dave Sargeant : (21 Jul - 17:50) There were injury problems and from what I heard very poor decisions from the refs but I suppose most teams could say the same. I would like our oldest players to be no more than 31/2.
@  Spike : (21 Jul - 17:58) You want our players to be younger than three and a half? We might be able to afford them and a babysitter. :lol:
@  Spike : (21 Jul - 18:01) I have to agree on the injuries, every one of those I mentioned were injured except Johnstone
@  Dave Sargeant : (21 Jul - 18:01) Well spotted Spike.
@  Spike : (21 Jul - 18:04) Dons won again yesterday, a win next game and they are in the Super League
@  Dave Sargeant : (21 Jul - 18:05) The two relegations we have suffered coincided with the two worst injury seasons I have ever known at Donny. Could it be the coaching?
@  Dave Sargeant : (21 Jul - 18:05) How many games do the dons have left.
@  Spike : (21 Jul - 18:05) Possibly
@  Spike : (21 Jul - 18:06) Still 6 games to go to get that win
@  Dave Sargeant : (21 Jul - 18:08) Should do it then.
@  Spike : (21 Jul - 18:09) Should do, Dons are the only club this season to beat Leigh
@  Spike : (21 Jul - 18:11) There is a chance they could be taking the place of Bradford Bulls
@  Dave Sargeant : (21 Jul - 18:12) I am getting to grips with my new phone but am having problems with my new lap top. I saw that the Bulls were not doing well whyn the sudden fall from a top club.
@  Spike : (21 Jul - 18:16) They have had points deducted, not that it would make any difference to their league position.
@  Spike : (21 Jul - 18:19) http://www.bbc.co.uk...league/28401310
@  Dave Sargeant : (21 Jul - 18:24) Had some good seasons in the last ten to fifteen years.
@  Spike : (21 Jul - 18:25) They were always up around the top of the league
@  Dave Sargeant : (21 Jul - 18:31) I am going to be busy for most of tomorrow and quite a bit on Wednesday Will catch you later Spike need to phone brother in law about our visit to Doncaster in Sept.
@  Spike : (21 Jul - 18:33) Ok Dave, don't work too hard
@  Dave Sargeant : (21 Jul - 20:48) Just heard the signings are going to kick off tomorrow or Wednesday.
@  Spike : (21 Jul - 20:53) Dickov is seeing Bramall and Baldwin tomorrow morning. http://www.doncaster...U0N6DD0.twitter
@  Spike : (21 Jul - 20:54) http://www.doncaster...ZPsh59g.twitter
@  Spike : (21 Jul - 20:56) More Season Tickets have been sold today than any day since May
@  Dave Sargeant : (21 Jul - 21:25) Some good news then Goodnight.
@  Spike : (21 Jul - 21:29) There will be more good news to come, I wish the idiots trying to spread the doom and gloom would sod off on holiday. Their mum and dad wouldn't want to take them though
@  Spike : (22 Jul - 07:41) I've got a Histon v Luton game listed for 19.45 tonight, anybody else heard anything about it?
@  Dave Sargeant : (22 Jul - 07:41) Hey Spike I am not one of those spreading doom and gloom but am trying to look at things logically. Not that you said I was but I was looking at things from more than one perspective.
@  Spike : (22 Jul - 07:44) I didn't mean you Dave, I think it's kids just trying to stir things, probably the same ones that are setting off the flares at friendly games and trying to cause agro with opposition fans
@  Spike : (22 Jul - 07:47) They can't see that if JR and LT can't show they have money to buy the club, how the hell are they going to give Dickov a higher budget than Bramall and co without putting the club into debt
@  Spike : (22 Jul - 08:34) An article in The London Economic re Ryan/Tomlinson failed takeover. http://www.thelondon...-of-a-pop-star/
@  Ironman : (22 Jul - 09:21) Spike, the Histon match was called off because their pitch wasn't going to be ready in time.
@  Spike : (22 Jul - 09:55) Ok, thanks. It's listed on a game schedule tonight and not seeing anything on the Luton forum it got me confused.
@  Humberside H... : (22 Jul - 13:04) What is strange: Coventry U18 are playing Luton. Commentry on Coventry Official Twitter. No mention of the game on the Official Luton site. Curretly half time with a 0-0 score.
@  Spike : (22 Jul - 14:14) Where is that being played Humberside?
@  Humberside H... : (22 Jul - 14:36) Coventry. All over now 0-0 draw.

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Anyone of the same opinion as me, that the whole process in this country with regard to the OS stinks of corruption? When the WHU lawyer is stating in court that having LOFC in the same stadium would ruin the WHU 'brand', I am gob smacked that Barry and Orient have not won the right to a full judicial review. We shall see where this goes next, but I do not see Barry giving up, and he has right very much on his side.

If WHU are allowed unfettered access to the OS, then we either (1) stay in Leyton and go bust in 5-10 years as a League club, and become a non-league club (2) move to the outskirts of London, and ply our trade there. Maybe this is the better solution.

Whatever happens, what I dislike most of all about this, is that I as a tax payer, have contributed to this stadium, and which is now being given for chicken feed rent to WHU, leading to the ultimate demise of my team. Where there is a very strong whiff of corruption, you normally do not have to dig too deep to find the source of the stench. I think we all know where that is coming from.

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100% agree with you. i don't think Bazza will let this rest i have been going to the O's for over 40 years there's now way i will see the O's disappear because of the back handers going on i will back Bazza 100% on this
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Being an optimist, I think the House of Lords may be more sympathetic to Orient regarding the "Legacy" issue and I sincerely hope that at the very least, Orient may extract some compensation from the Premiership/Football League if all else fails.

 

It really needs EVERY TRUE SUPPORTER of not just the O's, but EVERY FOOTBALL LEAGUE CLUB and perhaps at least some PREMIERSHIP CLUBS, voicing their opinion as to the whole decision making process in this fiasco, by writing to their MP.

 

If you had a million plus fans saying "this is ridiculous, why can't the O's share the stadium", something would be done.

 

It needs someone (or a group) to post messages on ALL CLUB/other forums explaining factually what has happened and the relevant issues- very time consuming but probable highly worthwhile.

 

Widespread publicity is what is needed - anyone fancy doing a tight-rope walk from one side of the OS to t'other ! Now that would get some coverage . . . . especially if the poor chap fell off whilst being videoed live by News at Ten !

 

Of course, he would have a fast opening parachute to save him . . . or her.

 

I have a wonderful optimistic imagination and outlook to life.

 

However good things are . . . . they could always be better.

 

However bad things are . . . . they could always be worse !


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Perhaps someone to parachute into upton park during a live sky game trailing a banner or something. It happened in the weekend just gone and made the news. I would offer but I'm scared of heights.. Truly diabolical decision though. Bazza is only asking someone to consider the option and if they come up with a viable reason why we shouldn't share (of which there isn't one) then fair enough. Perhaps this spell of success will help with the publicity. And as I've said before, why should one championship club get preference over another?
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Anyone of the same opinion as me, that the whole process in this country with regard to the OS stinks of corruption?

First thought in my mind when I heard about it today.I think I would have been more shocked if it went the other way to be honest.

And that WHU lawyer,pff,I spit on him.(said in a french accent)

If Hearns lawyers are that good,and if they're not,get some better ones,then we should come out of this with something positive in the end.

because there is a truth in there,they've broken Premier and Football League rules for a start.The problem now is how much money it's gonna take to take it further.

I can't see Bazza backing down tho',it's what makes his heart tick.Cholsient,get that rope ready,I'm roughing up me slippers.


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sign the petition. see it under O`S fans have you seen this posted by spike


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I've also posted the link to the petition on facebook.

This is what I wrote.

 

Please take a minute to sign and spread this link around,if you agree.

I'm not anti West Ham,it's just not right,is it.
Most hammers fans agree with this.
Leyton Orient should be a reality,not just a memory.Thanks.
 
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http://threeandin.com/?p=27493

Another independent commentary

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this is my opinion.it is just an opinion.it may be correct, it may be miles off..but its what I think.........

 

I believe West Hams owners Gold & Sullivan, who are lets face it, hard nosed businessmen, have got a very valuable asset in a team that plays its home games in the Olympic stadium, and they have a deal to sell that club once the OS deal is signed and secure.

I believe the people who own the Westfields shopping centres will buy West Ham, sometime after the deal is done, and Sullivan & gold will make a shed load of money.

Westfields are mega rich......were talking enormous  sums here, and they will take WEst Ham to new heights.

They will pump millions in that club, and buy top players, and once WH are one of the top teams, they will attract even more mega rich investors

In about 15 years from now, West Ham could be in the Real Madrid/Barcelona league.

The deal was struck, on the basis that they dont share the ground......it lowers the brand in their eyes, and in order that WEst Ham got the stadium, huge backhanders & bungs have been thrown around, to whoever they needed to to be on their side.

If they have spent 5 million on bungs & backhanders, its cheap, as they will make many more millions once their plans come to fruition.

These backhanders may have gone as high as its possible to go.( High as in personel)

How could it be possible, to reach such a decision as has been made, unless money & favours have changed hands.

Any legacy MUST have included Orient.it must have

This whole affair stinks to high heaven

As i say, this is one mans opinion, and maynot be at all factual..Im not saying it is, but this is what i think


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I reckon you are not far from the truth. Whether Westfields are involved, is debatable, but you could replace their name with any other organisation that may be involved. In fact, I would even go so far as to say that you are almost bang on the truth.
Quite clearly the corruption involved here, and the sums involved, go to very high levels, and there is a cartel that are deliberately keeping Barry and Orient out. The OS 'legacy' (sic) is not a legacy unless it involves Leyton Orient in some way. As the spokesperson for the House of Lords said, the OS legacy was not intended to see the local football club stamped on and destroyed. That is what the LLDC, Boris, Sullivan Gold and Brady intend to do, and they know it. It is almost without doubt that there are very large sums involved, and with a fair number of people. Barry is entirely correct when he alludes to this in his commentary, when he mentions deals done behind closed doors.

This needs to come out, and it needs an investigative journalist to start digging.

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It will all come out in the future, but only at a time that the O's, or anyone else for that matter, can do nothing about it. Dark forces unquestionably at work here.

We'll just take it out on them on the pitch next season!!!
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And now for the cost of all of this....

 

http://www.sportsdir...-legal-bill.php

 

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Well I won't be using them when I sell my house.This money was accounted for beforehand (cup run),so no great biggy there.Thing is,the lawyers failed,so if Bazza continues with them maybe there's a deal to be struck to take it further,I dunno,I'm not a lawyer.They (the lawyers) certainly wouldn't want to be losers in a well publicised case though.

Does anyone know why Bazza has been in NY this week,I'm guessing it's boxing but they also have lawyers there,don't they.I really hope he continues with this and the club gets at least some kind of compensation.

 

I wonder if this could be funded by some billionaire that we don't know about yet.

 

We could all wear tea towels on our heads for the next home match,just to get the ball rolling.


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Should have gone with some 'no win, no fee' merchants!


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Too right bishop,I could have lost him the case for half of what he paid them.


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