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@  Anonymous Ha... : (18 Oct - 16:00) chelsea and bristol city only unbeaten sides left
@  Spike : (18 Oct - 16:00) Go and work it out, I can't be bothered explaining things to a Luton fan who always moans about my posts
@  Icklefordian : (18 Oct - 16:01) I would guess that a team below them lost by more goals so gd altered
@  Anonymous Ha... : (18 Oct - 16:02) crawley lost 5-3 which is a better scoreline to lose by than 3-1
@  Anonymous Ha... : (18 Oct - 16:05) donny haven't moved up a place they were 14th this morning and are still 14th now, they are lucky most teams above them didn't win today
@  LakeCountyHa... : (18 Oct - 16:41) That Cullen is a crap
@  Spike : (18 Oct - 16:43) Leave him alone, he got me a bonus point today. ;)
@  LakeCountyHa... : (18 Oct - 17:01) Mick, you must be pleased, good awareness by Jumbo.
@  LakeCountyHa... : (18 Oct - 17:02) Jumbo even.
@  LakeCountyHa... : (18 Oct - 17:02) Jumbo
@  LakeCountyHa... : (18 Oct - 17:04) This crap iPad will not accept Jiiimbo
@  Anonymous Ha... : (18 Oct - 17:26) fair play to cullen he started scoring goals which what he should be doing, just working hard isn't enough
@  Icklefordian : (18 Oct - 17:27) what makes you say that? all reports talk about how high his work rate is!
@  Anonymous Ha... : (18 Oct - 17:43) that's my point, but people pay to watch skill and ability not work rate, anyone can work hard
@  Anonymous Ha... : (18 Oct - 17:45) i had the most desire and work rate when i was a kid but i was crap skill wise compared to other people, then i lost belief and got lazy
@  Anonymous Ha... : (18 Oct - 17:46) AIMITA
@  Anonymous Ha... : (18 Oct - 17:47) ability is more important than attitude
@  Spike : (18 Oct - 17:49) You've got that wrong. It's "Attitude Is More Important Than Ability"
@  Spike : (18 Oct - 17:50) http://acronyms.thef...nary.com/AIMITA
@  Anonymous Ha... : (18 Oct - 17:52) i know but that's wrong, no child under 10 years old works hard or has the right attitude, natural ability gives them a platform then when they are older they start working hard
@  Anonymous Ha... : (18 Oct - 17:53) do you think a 7 year old passes a test cos he worked hard?
@  Spike : (18 Oct - 17:53) You can't just swap acronyms around when it suits you.
@  Spike : (18 Oct - 17:54) He is more likely to pass his test if he has worked at it
@  Anonymous Ha... : (18 Oct - 17:55) i can cos a lot of stuff like that is a load of bollox
@  Spike : (18 Oct - 17:56) If you do that there is no wonder you come out with some of the things you do
@  Anonymous Ha... : (18 Oct - 17:57) utter rubbish
@  Spike : (18 Oct - 17:57) You know all about that, you talk plenty of it
@  Anonymous Ha... : (18 Oct - 17:59) its when kids get to high school they understand the meaning of attitude and working hard, by then it is already too late for those with less fortunate ability and they have no confidence and become lazy or disruptive
@  Spike : (18 Oct - 18:02) Young kids do know the meaning of working hard to get what they want. Are you always so stupid or is today a special occasion?
@  Anonymous Ha... : (18 Oct - 18:02) or it is down to the parents to make them work hard when they are a small child, he/she wouldn't do that on his/her own like an older person would
@  Anonymous Ha... : (18 Oct - 18:04) young kids care about what toy they want, what kid says i will never give up i will work hard?
@  Anonymous Ha... : (18 Oct - 18:08) do you think i was this negative when i was 5? i was thick as a kid and still am now, only difference is i know how to work hard now but will never be a brain surgeon even if i studied it for the next 20 years
@  Anonymous Ha... : (18 Oct - 18:09) you have to have the ability when you are a child then when you get older you will have the attitude
@  Spike : (20 Oct - 06:11) Sad to see 2 youngsters have died while playing football this weekend. RIP. http://www.exeterexp...tail/story.html http://www.itv.com/n...-in-lancashire/
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@  Punk_Life75 : (20 Oct - 13:15) Quite shocking to think 2 fit and apparently healthy people can pass away in such a way. Just shows we are here for a good time not a long time.
@  Punk_Life75 : (20 Oct - 13:55) Also a 23 year old died at the weekend celebrating scoring http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/29689747
@  Spike : (20 Oct - 14:18) Not a good weekend for football
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@  Spike : (21 Oct - 17:05) Alb, do you really mean Colchester United 2 Chesterfield 22 in your 262 prediction
@  Spike : (21 Oct - 17:47) Donny team: Steer, Furman, McCombe, Forrester, McCullough, Tyson, Wellens, De Val, Wabara, Wakefield, Coppinger
@  Spike : (21 Oct - 17:48) Subs: Marosi, Evina, Robinson, Main, Keegan, Bennett, Lund
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@  Spike : (21 Oct - 18:13) Orient team: Woods, Omozusi, Cuthbert, McAnuff, Lowry, Pritchard, Bartley, Dagnall, Henderson, Price, Simpson
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Anyone of the same opinion as me, that the whole process in this country with regard to the OS stinks of corruption? When the WHU lawyer is stating in court that having LOFC in the same stadium would ruin the WHU 'brand', I am gob smacked that Barry and Orient have not won the right to a full judicial review. We shall see where this goes next, but I do not see Barry giving up, and he has right very much on his side.

If WHU are allowed unfettered access to the OS, then we either (1) stay in Leyton and go bust in 5-10 years as a League club, and become a non-league club (2) move to the outskirts of London, and ply our trade there. Maybe this is the better solution.

Whatever happens, what I dislike most of all about this, is that I as a tax payer, have contributed to this stadium, and which is now being given for chicken feed rent to WHU, leading to the ultimate demise of my team. Where there is a very strong whiff of corruption, you normally do not have to dig too deep to find the source of the stench. I think we all know where that is coming from.

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100% agree with you. i don't think Bazza will let this rest i have been going to the O's for over 40 years there's now way i will see the O's disappear because of the back handers going on i will back Bazza 100% on this
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Being an optimist, I think the House of Lords may be more sympathetic to Orient regarding the "Legacy" issue and I sincerely hope that at the very least, Orient may extract some compensation from the Premiership/Football League if all else fails.

 

It really needs EVERY TRUE SUPPORTER of not just the O's, but EVERY FOOTBALL LEAGUE CLUB and perhaps at least some PREMIERSHIP CLUBS, voicing their opinion as to the whole decision making process in this fiasco, by writing to their MP.

 

If you had a million plus fans saying "this is ridiculous, why can't the O's share the stadium", something would be done.

 

It needs someone (or a group) to post messages on ALL CLUB/other forums explaining factually what has happened and the relevant issues- very time consuming but probable highly worthwhile.

 

Widespread publicity is what is needed - anyone fancy doing a tight-rope walk from one side of the OS to t'other ! Now that would get some coverage . . . . especially if the poor chap fell off whilst being videoed live by News at Ten !

 

Of course, he would have a fast opening parachute to save him . . . or her.

 

I have a wonderful optimistic imagination and outlook to life.

 

However good things are . . . . they could always be better.

 

However bad things are . . . . they could always be worse !


Edited by Cholsient, 19 Sep 2013 - 19:49.

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Perhaps someone to parachute into upton park during a live sky game trailing a banner or something. It happened in the weekend just gone and made the news. I would offer but I'm scared of heights.. Truly diabolical decision though. Bazza is only asking someone to consider the option and if they come up with a viable reason why we shouldn't share (of which there isn't one) then fair enough. Perhaps this spell of success will help with the publicity. And as I've said before, why should one championship club get preference over another?
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Anyone of the same opinion as me, that the whole process in this country with regard to the OS stinks of corruption?

First thought in my mind when I heard about it today.I think I would have been more shocked if it went the other way to be honest.

And that WHU lawyer,pff,I spit on him.(said in a french accent)

If Hearns lawyers are that good,and if they're not,get some better ones,then we should come out of this with something positive in the end.

because there is a truth in there,they've broken Premier and Football League rules for a start.The problem now is how much money it's gonna take to take it further.

I can't see Bazza backing down tho',it's what makes his heart tick.Cholsient,get that rope ready,I'm roughing up me slippers.


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sign the petition. see it under O`S fans have you seen this posted by spike


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I've also posted the link to the petition on facebook.

This is what I wrote.

 

Please take a minute to sign and spread this link around,if you agree.

I'm not anti West Ham,it's just not right,is it.
Most hammers fans agree with this.
Leyton Orient should be a reality,not just a memory.Thanks.
 
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http://threeandin.com/?p=27493

Another independent commentary

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this is my opinion.it is just an opinion.it may be correct, it may be miles off..but its what I think.........

 

I believe West Hams owners Gold & Sullivan, who are lets face it, hard nosed businessmen, have got a very valuable asset in a team that plays its home games in the Olympic stadium, and they have a deal to sell that club once the OS deal is signed and secure.

I believe the people who own the Westfields shopping centres will buy West Ham, sometime after the deal is done, and Sullivan & gold will make a shed load of money.

Westfields are mega rich......were talking enormous  sums here, and they will take WEst Ham to new heights.

They will pump millions in that club, and buy top players, and once WH are one of the top teams, they will attract even more mega rich investors

In about 15 years from now, West Ham could be in the Real Madrid/Barcelona league.

The deal was struck, on the basis that they dont share the ground......it lowers the brand in their eyes, and in order that WEst Ham got the stadium, huge backhanders & bungs have been thrown around, to whoever they needed to to be on their side.

If they have spent 5 million on bungs & backhanders, its cheap, as they will make many more millions once their plans come to fruition.

These backhanders may have gone as high as its possible to go.( High as in personel)

How could it be possible, to reach such a decision as has been made, unless money & favours have changed hands.

Any legacy MUST have included Orient.it must have

This whole affair stinks to high heaven

As i say, this is one mans opinion, and maynot be at all factual..Im not saying it is, but this is what i think


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I reckon you are not far from the truth. Whether Westfields are involved, is debatable, but you could replace their name with any other organisation that may be involved. In fact, I would even go so far as to say that you are almost bang on the truth.
Quite clearly the corruption involved here, and the sums involved, go to very high levels, and there is a cartel that are deliberately keeping Barry and Orient out. The OS 'legacy' (sic) is not a legacy unless it involves Leyton Orient in some way. As the spokesperson for the House of Lords said, the OS legacy was not intended to see the local football club stamped on and destroyed. That is what the LLDC, Boris, Sullivan Gold and Brady intend to do, and they know it. It is almost without doubt that there are very large sums involved, and with a fair number of people. Barry is entirely correct when he alludes to this in his commentary, when he mentions deals done behind closed doors.

This needs to come out, and it needs an investigative journalist to start digging.

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It will all come out in the future, but only at a time that the O's, or anyone else for that matter, can do nothing about it. Dark forces unquestionably at work here.

We'll just take it out on them on the pitch next season!!!
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And now for the cost of all of this....

 

http://www.sportsdir...-legal-bill.php

 

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Well I won't be using them when I sell my house.This money was accounted for beforehand (cup run),so no great biggy there.Thing is,the lawyers failed,so if Bazza continues with them maybe there's a deal to be struck to take it further,I dunno,I'm not a lawyer.They (the lawyers) certainly wouldn't want to be losers in a well publicised case though.

Does anyone know why Bazza has been in NY this week,I'm guessing it's boxing but they also have lawyers there,don't they.I really hope he continues with this and the club gets at least some kind of compensation.

 

I wonder if this could be funded by some billionaire that we don't know about yet.

 

We could all wear tea towels on our heads for the next home match,just to get the ball rolling.


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Should have gone with some 'no win, no fee' merchants!


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Too right bishop,I could have lost him the case for half of what he paid them.


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