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@  Anonymous Ha... : (23 Apr - 19:43) ebbs were 2-0 up in the 70th min last week before game was abandoned due to floodlight failure, the FA should have just given ebbs the 3 points, ebbs are in a real battle for a playoff place if they end up losing tomorrow
@  Anonymous Ha... : (23 Apr - 19:44) luckily the team they have to play are playing tonight
@  LakeCountyHa... : (23 Apr - 19:46) Are ebs in the ryman league?
@  Anonymous Ha... : (23 Apr - 19:49) skrill south
@  LakeCountyHa... : (23 Apr - 19:49) WOW!!!
@  Anonymous Ha... : (23 Apr - 19:52) if it was luton in this situation there would be huge uproar on here
@  GentlemanSpi... : (23 Apr - 19:52) Crazy. 2-0 up, match abandoned after 70 mins and you expect the FA to award your team the points? Get real. The other side could quite easily have scored twice or more in the last twenty minutes. That is why the game must be replayed.
@  Anonymous Ha... : (23 Apr - 19:54) easy to say when it don't affect your team spix, when its someone else they are told to stop whining, funny old game eh, spike would be crying if it was donny
@  Spike : (23 Apr - 19:54) Crazy, when Donnys game against Charlton was abandoned because their pitch was damp you were the one that said "these things happen get on with it" so why not take your own advice
@  LakeCountyHa... : (23 Apr - 19:56) LOL!
@  Anonymous Ha... : (23 Apr - 19:57) they should just play from the 70th min with ebbs 2-0 up
@  LakeCountyHa... : (23 Apr - 19:58) (23 Apr - 21:54)Crazy, when Donnys game against Charlton was abandoned because their pitch was damp you were the one that said "these things happen get on with it" so why not take your own advice
@  Spike : (23 Apr - 19:59) They don't do that in England, see I learned that from you when chatting about that same Charlton game.
@  LakeCountyHa... : (23 Apr - 20:00) LOL!
@  Anonymous Ha... : (23 Apr - 20:01) you learn lots of things from me
@  Spike : (23 Apr - 20:01) Oh and you said the FA won't change the rules for Donny. It will be the same for Ebbsfleet I would think.
@  Anonymous Ha... : (23 Apr - 20:04) i bet you will complain if donny go down by one point, had the charlton game not been abandoned you would have survived
@  GentlemanSpi... : (23 Apr - 20:07) It's irrelevant as to whos team it affects Crazy. That is the way it is. You may say it's wrong but you 'aint going to change it. It's tough for Ebbs. but they have no alternative than to accept the situation, like it or not.
@  Anonymous Ha... : (23 Apr - 20:07) good news for ebbs anyway, havant are 3-0 down
@  Spike : (23 Apr - 20:07) Don't worry about it Crazy, come and see some decent football with Nicky and me on Saturday, we'll be going to 2 games so it will keep you occupied. Here's a sample of one of the teams you'd see. http://www.doncaster...d_united_h.html
@  GentlemanSpi... : (23 Apr - 20:08) So presumably then, you are now happy with having to replay!!
@  GentlemanSpi... : (23 Apr - 20:09) For no other reason that that results elsewhere are helping Ebbs.
@  Anonymous Ha... : (23 Apr - 20:11) im not happy about the replay but thankfully other results are going ebbsfleet's way tonight, that's obvious isn't it
@  Anonymous Ha... : (23 Apr - 20:11) obvious when i said good news
@  Spike : (24 Apr - 08:32) Karl Oyston says he is going to sue Blackpools fans
@  GentlemanSpi... : (24 Apr - 09:41) What, all of them? Should be interesting.
@  Spike : (24 Apr - 10:17) http://www.blackpool...reats-1-6577197
@  Spike : (24 Apr - 18:08) It seems Chelsea will be ok to field a weakened team against Liverpool on Sunday. Why is that when Blackpool received a fine for it? More double standards from the football authorities.
@  GentlemanSpi... : (24 Apr - 18:13) On TV text today it was stated that the rules since Blackpool were fined for fielding a weakened team have been changed. How very convenient that a premiership side whould be the first to benefit from the "rule change!"
@  Spike : (24 Apr - 18:16) When and why did they change it? Was it recently because Chelsea said they might want to field a weak team?
@  GentlemanSpi... : (24 Apr - 18:19) I've no idea Spike. I just repeat what I read.
@  Spike : (24 Apr - 18:23) Now Manchester City Ladies are saying it will take them time with their project of building a team that will be able to compete in the FAWSL. Why did the FA put them in it automatically when it is obvious they haven't got the coaching staff or players to form a decent team. They haven't got a point, they haven't even scored a goal yet they kick Donny Belles out for Man City to replace them. The FA are continuing to make the football in this country a bigger joke than it already is.
@  GentlemanSpi... : (24 Apr - 18:28) If you honestly expect a level playing field (pun) from the FA then I'm afraid to say you're one very deluded man.
@  Spike : (24 Apr - 18:30) Another thing I've just seen, Man City ladies manager is Nick Cushing whose previous experience of football was coaching 12 to 16 year old schoolgirls. At that spix you've a good chance of being the next Man U manager, at least you have an idea about the rules of the game, being a referee
@  Spike : (24 Apr - 18:34) Oh they had to do that because nobody else would go to them, the same as the women players wouldn't go to them.
@  Icklefordian : (24 Apr - 19:09) I've got an FA Coaching Certificate that probably makes me over qualified!
@  Spike : (24 Apr - 19:10) Maybe you could help dig England out of the excrement.
@  Icklefordian : (24 Apr - 19:27) No thanks that would mean having to watch Premiership games and miss the Hatters!
@  GentlemanSpi... : (24 Apr - 19:29) Not necessarily Ickle. You could always pick the England team from the lower leagues with a large smattering of Hatters players!
@  Spike : (24 Apr - 19:29) Ebbsfleet 1 up at Concord Rangers
@  GentlemanSpi... : (24 Apr - 19:30) Crazy will be dancing around now!!
@  GentlemanSpi... : (24 Apr - 19:31) Unless the game is abandoned.
@  Spike : (24 Apr - 19:31) They would probably give a better performance and be more entertaining than the rabble that play for England now
@  Dave Sargeant : (24 Apr - 19:32) Will Rovers field a weakened team against Reading on Sat?
@  GentlemanSpi... : (24 Apr - 19:32) Exactly Spike. At least they would play with honesty and real effort.
@  Spike : (24 Apr - 19:33) The points scorers for the quality of diving may be a little disgruntled at having nothing to do
@  Dave Sargeant : (24 Apr - 19:34) I watch a little  ' top class ' football on the box but the excitement is just not there anymore.  Poor crosses, not much penalty box stuff sometimes very poor passing.
@  GentlemanSpi... : (24 Apr - 19:34) :D :D :D
@  Spike : (24 Apr - 19:45) Watch this Dave, it's probably better, a couple of cracking goals. https://www.youtube....H76pwHloiMJJ9BQ
@  Anonymous Ha... : (24 Apr - 22:07) ebbs won 2-1 thankfully and have secured a play off place

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Anyone of the same opinion as me, that the whole process in this country with regard to the OS stinks of corruption? When the WHU lawyer is stating in court that having LOFC in the same stadium would ruin the WHU 'brand', I am gob smacked that Barry and Orient have not won the right to a full judicial review. We shall see where this goes next, but I do not see Barry giving up, and he has right very much on his side.

If WHU are allowed unfettered access to the OS, then we either (1) stay in Leyton and go bust in 5-10 years as a League club, and become a non-league club (2) move to the outskirts of London, and ply our trade there. Maybe this is the better solution.

Whatever happens, what I dislike most of all about this, is that I as a tax payer, have contributed to this stadium, and which is now being given for chicken feed rent to WHU, leading to the ultimate demise of my team. Where there is a very strong whiff of corruption, you normally do not have to dig too deep to find the source of the stench. I think we all know where that is coming from.

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100% agree with you. i don't think Bazza will let this rest i have been going to the O's for over 40 years there's now way i will see the O's disappear because of the back handers going on i will back Bazza 100% on this
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Being an optimist, I think the House of Lords may be more sympathetic to Orient regarding the "Legacy" issue and I sincerely hope that at the very least, Orient may extract some compensation from the Premiership/Football League if all else fails.

 

It really needs EVERY TRUE SUPPORTER of not just the O's, but EVERY FOOTBALL LEAGUE CLUB and perhaps at least some PREMIERSHIP CLUBS, voicing their opinion as to the whole decision making process in this fiasco, by writing to their MP.

 

If you had a million plus fans saying "this is ridiculous, why can't the O's share the stadium", something would be done.

 

It needs someone (or a group) to post messages on ALL CLUB/other forums explaining factually what has happened and the relevant issues- very time consuming but probable highly worthwhile.

 

Widespread publicity is what is needed - anyone fancy doing a tight-rope walk from one side of the OS to t'other ! Now that would get some coverage . . . . especially if the poor chap fell off whilst being videoed live by News at Ten !

 

Of course, he would have a fast opening parachute to save him . . . or her.

 

I have a wonderful optimistic imagination and outlook to life.

 

However good things are . . . . they could always be better.

 

However bad things are . . . . they could always be worse !


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Perhaps someone to parachute into upton park during a live sky game trailing a banner or something. It happened in the weekend just gone and made the news. I would offer but I'm scared of heights.. Truly diabolical decision though. Bazza is only asking someone to consider the option and if they come up with a viable reason why we shouldn't share (of which there isn't one) then fair enough. Perhaps this spell of success will help with the publicity. And as I've said before, why should one championship club get preference over another?
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Anyone of the same opinion as me, that the whole process in this country with regard to the OS stinks of corruption?

First thought in my mind when I heard about it today.I think I would have been more shocked if it went the other way to be honest.

And that WHU lawyer,pff,I spit on him.(said in a french accent)

If Hearns lawyers are that good,and if they're not,get some better ones,then we should come out of this with something positive in the end.

because there is a truth in there,they've broken Premier and Football League rules for a start.The problem now is how much money it's gonna take to take it further.

I can't see Bazza backing down tho',it's what makes his heart tick.Cholsient,get that rope ready,I'm roughing up me slippers.


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sign the petition. see it under O`S fans have you seen this posted by spike


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I've also posted the link to the petition on facebook.

This is what I wrote.

 

Please take a minute to sign and spread this link around,if you agree.

I'm not anti West Ham,it's just not right,is it.
Most hammers fans agree with this.
Leyton Orient should be a reality,not just a memory.Thanks.
 
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http://threeandin.com/?p=27493

Another independent commentary

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this is my opinion.it is just an opinion.it may be correct, it may be miles off..but its what I think.........

 

I believe West Hams owners Gold & Sullivan, who are lets face it, hard nosed businessmen, have got a very valuable asset in a team that plays its home games in the Olympic stadium, and they have a deal to sell that club once the OS deal is signed and secure.

I believe the people who own the Westfields shopping centres will buy West Ham, sometime after the deal is done, and Sullivan & gold will make a shed load of money.

Westfields are mega rich......were talking enormous  sums here, and they will take WEst Ham to new heights.

They will pump millions in that club, and buy top players, and once WH are one of the top teams, they will attract even more mega rich investors

In about 15 years from now, West Ham could be in the Real Madrid/Barcelona league.

The deal was struck, on the basis that they dont share the ground......it lowers the brand in their eyes, and in order that WEst Ham got the stadium, huge backhanders & bungs have been thrown around, to whoever they needed to to be on their side.

If they have spent 5 million on bungs & backhanders, its cheap, as they will make many more millions once their plans come to fruition.

These backhanders may have gone as high as its possible to go.( High as in personel)

How could it be possible, to reach such a decision as has been made, unless money & favours have changed hands.

Any legacy MUST have included Orient.it must have

This whole affair stinks to high heaven

As i say, this is one mans opinion, and maynot be at all factual..Im not saying it is, but this is what i think


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I reckon you are not far from the truth. Whether Westfields are involved, is debatable, but you could replace their name with any other organisation that may be involved. In fact, I would even go so far as to say that you are almost bang on the truth.
Quite clearly the corruption involved here, and the sums involved, go to very high levels, and there is a cartel that are deliberately keeping Barry and Orient out. The OS 'legacy' (sic) is not a legacy unless it involves Leyton Orient in some way. As the spokesperson for the House of Lords said, the OS legacy was not intended to see the local football club stamped on and destroyed. That is what the LLDC, Boris, Sullivan Gold and Brady intend to do, and they know it. It is almost without doubt that there are very large sums involved, and with a fair number of people. Barry is entirely correct when he alludes to this in his commentary, when he mentions deals done behind closed doors.

This needs to come out, and it needs an investigative journalist to start digging.

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It will all come out in the future, but only at a time that the O's, or anyone else for that matter, can do nothing about it. Dark forces unquestionably at work here.

We'll just take it out on them on the pitch next season!!!
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And now for the cost of all of this....

 

http://www.sportsdir...-legal-bill.php

 

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Well I won't be using them when I sell my house.This money was accounted for beforehand (cup run),so no great biggy there.Thing is,the lawyers failed,so if Bazza continues with them maybe there's a deal to be struck to take it further,I dunno,I'm not a lawyer.They (the lawyers) certainly wouldn't want to be losers in a well publicised case though.

Does anyone know why Bazza has been in NY this week,I'm guessing it's boxing but they also have lawyers there,don't they.I really hope he continues with this and the club gets at least some kind of compensation.

 

I wonder if this could be funded by some billionaire that we don't know about yet.

 

We could all wear tea towels on our heads for the next home match,just to get the ball rolling.


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Should have gone with some 'no win, no fee' merchants!


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Too right bishop,I could have lost him the case for half of what he paid them.


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